Description: The article is related to showtimeanytime com activate. The writer primarily discusses who has had the better year, HBO or Showtime. Whether Vargas vs Salido gives HBO the credit, if Showtime’s value for money is in its favor.
We are back at Hollywood smoke in Santa Monica. I’m Steve Kim, This is Michael Baca, this is Michael Montero. We filmed this in early August. We get into two thirds of the year. We have a very simple question out of the basic premium cable networks that everyone associates with boxing HBO and Showtime.
Who in your mind has had a better year? This is to decide between Hillary and Trump. I think that HBO starts to the year, but they’re picking things up and speaking with these arguments. I go with the one who had the fight of the year, Vargas Lee was on HBO, so they have a better year.
I disagree completely, Showtime has given their subscribers their money, their money was worth over the entire year, they’ve been consistent with big fights. The Thurman Porter’s fight was on CBS presented by Showtime, we counted Showtime in that.
There’s PBC on Showtime, I don’t know what is going on. So I don’t know whether you can consider Showtime or not. Besides the facts, let’s give that to CBS. I still think that Showtime has given us more fights, and I think that it is important rather than looking at one fight, other than what other HBO fights are, you remember that.
That is a question, that’s the other issue. I think that you’re getting volume with Showtime. Then I don’t think that the quality is much different. I think that PBC has a larger roster, they’re playing with the larger checkbook. It was a time when Rubio was going through some issues.
The other issue, though HBO has the most dominant and best fighters, we’re to watch fights. When you watch Hadi golovkin against Dominic Wade, it is going to show a Beyonce concert. Let’s face it, it’s a one-person show, you know the outcome. So you have to balance the thing. There’s still a lot of years to play out.
Here we’ve got September through December. Now the other issue with HBO is their most definitive fights coming up, we need to pay per view, that’s another $65, So they’re going through a transition stage.
So the HBO budget has problems, it’s across the board. The HBO is not only sports programming but related to the Time Warner. That will get sorted out. Over the next couple years, I have faith, it’s going to take longer time, but it will get sorted out.
When you compare HBO and Showtime, I don’t think that either has had a particularly great year. But the better fighters are on HBO, we still have a few months left. I know that some of them are pay-per-view. They promise Canelo and Golovkin again by the end of the year on regular HBO. I think that they can close the year stronger.
Steven Espinosa told me about a month and a half ago. When it comes to football season, they do not kick off a lot, they’re going to scale back their program, because football is a king in our country. College football, the SCC, Primetime game, the ESPN games and Fox, they’re all doing Primetime games. That didn’t exist about six years ago.
Mike’s point, if you are a boxing diehard, you are going to get HBO or Showtime, not for things like Game of Thrones or ray Donovan. You’re doing it for boxing programming, and you’re a reasonable fan. If you’re a boxing fan, they are going to give you more for the buck, I agree with you, Mike.
Absolutely, it came in waves, because it wasn’t too long ago. Showtime ever put on boxing again. The PBC started at first, they had scheduled. This year, they laid out a whole summer schedule. They were all solid compared to HBO.
I think that Russell against Highland was the only one which riced it up, that was bad. HBO was as bad as well, it was not part of their championship boxing series, this is something that HBO has to address. They use HBO Latino once in a while as a developmental platform. We’re right on the cusp.
Showbox is good, they have great fights. Going to Bolivian, as Mike Tyson says, HBO needs to find a developmental platform for these fighters who aren’t ready for the Primetime stage. Showtime has that, HBO doesn’t. So they’re going through some issues that Peter Nelson has to guide them through.
One positive thing about HBO in this segment, September 10th might be the best card of the entire year, I feel bad that those three fights were in one day. I don’t know if that can be matched.
I don’t think that there was any debt. That was the worst year as a boxing Network. Heyman went into the PBC and asked for some dates and money back to roll back their deal. Heyman is punishing ESPN, and poor Teddy Joe has to sit through that. He knows that they’re going to go after the UFC. Whatever, their deal is over. I heard that they might have fights next year, but the writing is on the wall, it seems that ESPN is going to say, boxing, we loved you for 30 years.
It’s such a shame, because the Friday Night Fights model was broken up, a lot of diehard fans were sad, because you could see the writing on the wall. They were going to screw this up. Those ESPN cards, some of those Fox Sports are better. You don’t need to think, it would be that way. It’s unanimous that ESPN is the worst of the year.OK, that’s it for this edition of the ten count on behalf of Michael Baca and Michael Montero. This is Steve Kim, Goodbye.